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Post by Preston-Lover on Jun 16, 2008 17:53:05 GMT -5
This topic is dedicated to the character Preston A. Lodge III. Feel free to discuss anything about this character.  Anyone think this topic’s title is funny? I mean the quote is from the eppy "A New Life" – "This is my property, you are all trespassing" and think of it like it’s being said to all who enters this thread  Ok what can I say about my favorite character…hmmm CUTE, CUTE and more CUTE!! It’s really hard for me to pick a favorite episode with Preston, but the more I think about it, the more I’m certain that it’s "A New Life". He’s in absolute focus in this episode, and I love that. All his scenes I love! Yes, also the scene when he cuts down the Kissing Tree, because he had all the right in the world to do that, and I just can’t understand why so many people hate him for this act and that it’s so wrong of him, when it’s really not. He just came to town, doesn’t know anything about this Kissing Tree and therefore purchases this beautiful property and plans to build a home, then all of a sudden the whole town shows up (on his private property) and demands that he reconsider cutting down this tree. I can’t understand how Dr. Mike can make herself say something like "Perhaps you could build around the tree?" – I mean, who would do such a thing? And if he did, and left the tree alone, then ever so often, town-people would be coming out to the tree and having picnics (lol). Now how would that not look? To have strangers coming out to his own private home all the time, that’s just insane. And another thing Dr. Mike said was "Perhaps we could buy the land from you, add a profit". Now why should Preston accept that? Sure he considers it for about two seconds before rejecting the offer, but he surly did the right thing. If he accepted this, he would have to find another property which would mean it would take longer time before he would have his home and he’d probably not find such an attractive property again if he looked. He had just come to town, purchased some land (that he probably had gone through a lot of time and effort to achieve) and ready to build, so I understand why he didn’t alter his plans and did what he did. Now if this "special" Kissing Tree meant so much to the entire town, why didn’t Jake, as mayor, declare the place an historical land mark, since he appears to have the power to do such a thing. Had that been done, of course before Preston purchased the land, then there would have been no troubles. I’ll post more of my opinions as discussions appear. |
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Post by HelChamp on Jun 17, 2008 7:53:56 GMT -5
And if he did, and left the tree alone, then ever so often, town-people would be coming out to the tree and having picnics (lol). Now how would that not look? To have strangers coming out to his own private home all the time, that’s just insane.  Hehe, I didn't thought to that like that, hehehe! Sure sound ridiculous! Well, for talking about hte Kissing Tree part, I think it was a lot of dramatisation for bring some hate toward Preston (and it seem work well, especially for the Sully fanclub). Anyway, we talk about a tree here. We not talk about people life and heal in danger. I mean, there was so many more worse and bad events in town and they made a whole story about a tree? Sure in a way the tree was a lot of memories for people, but never the town put this land under historical safety - it wasn't so important before until Preston-the-bad-guys want to make his house there. Sure it is dicutale, but they really exagerate the situation for probably bring some corny on Preston head for the viewer, or something like. He purchased a land for his home and this have a certain value. If he wanted to have the neighboor land, he woudl purhcased the neighboor land before. The town made a mistake by not proteging the trees before, but if Preston wouldn't cut it, it would had been by someone else5, 10 or 20 years later and someone else would have pbenefit of this land at the end. Ok, talking of Preston now   Well, I noticed that for Sully's fanclub, Preston is usually totally the big evil guys in town. But well, what instereating with Preston (even Jake too) is that they aren't the perfection guys (whihc is nearly impossible). Sully was created for be the perfect image of deep dream of maybe lot of woman, but how annying it become in a sens. But, if we list the bad guys in the serie and movie - where Preston can be listed? How many person he poisonous without care? How many people he kill for fun of money interest? How many people he beatten or raped? Etc... Mayn peopel seme often forget that we are in 1870 in the serie. This apply to others townies too (Horace, Jake, etc...) and often soem girls woudl said - and brig some default like when Prestonasked to Grace, which worked for the hotel kitchen) to enter by the back. I'm sorry, but still today, that is the regular way for the workers to do in such place. Also, about racist or white/black question, the situation in USA didn't change a lot before th 1950 or something like, same as woman working not at home (or other job than teaher and nurse). Some women seem to want that everyone in CS should think like 2008 people, indespite that many problem was stilla valaible 50 years ago - lor of husband didn't allow in 1950 to their woman work. The WWII helped the women to work outside due the men wasn't there, it give an help. Preston was very open-mind. Opposite to the townies, he never reject the fact thta Mike, Dorothy and even Myra work in some important position in a way. How bad he is, lol! He is gentlemen, respectful but sure, not emotional. Well, this isn't a problem of his character only - always today I heard father talking to their little 5-8 years son about a man shouldn't show emotion or cry etc... Imagine back more than 100 years ago? Show emotion = shown weakness. In business, it coudl be fatal for a carreer. I must admit that Jason was nice acting - more than once, his character had to said nothing, but his face shown all the pain Preston coudl have in many situation. He is younger of 5 brothers and their father encourage them to fight eahc other - life is a competition after all, no? Preston worked hard for achieve his goal and it what a shame when his father came - everyone seemed happy to backstab Preston in a sort of way. Did Preston seem really happy and sure about remove Horace buggy because of the late payment? Probably if his father wouldn't come, he would extended the payements (with some more interest of course) but Horace had a perfect profile for someone to have a loan - job and no risk of lost it. But he had to shown that he don't have heart - heart and business nor work together in a way. I was just a little surprise at the end when his father talk about to rebuild, stronger this time. It seem to be a kind of friendly speech, opposite of eevrything about how near a shame Preston achievement was in town. If Preston woudl really be bad, he would probably do more in town and haev mor epeople against him, but in a way, he keep a respect of the current town. I didn't try to corrupt and bad treat peopel for achieve his goal. Peopel should watch Deadwood or western like that - Preston is an angel in business and respect people a lot. Again another point illogical point in the first episode, when he loan to Ingrid/Matthew. If he can't loan to the Reverend later, how could he loan to Mathew, knowing that the boy not have regular work (and it was lot of money that Ingrid hold), bank need more for give a loan. It seem more made for bring anger toward Preston - but seem not too much logical. Well, Preston is someone which need to receive some love, but never had really it from his family (love = emotion = weakness). Look a Jake how e evoluate when he meet Teresa? Sometime it not need a lot for someone can have a reason to improve other than try to be appreciate by his father. The life isn't all this, but it was all that Preston knew. I wish Isabelle could not be sick (but well, it wouldn't had episode!), it would bring more interesting way to see about Preston character. |
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Post by Preston-Lover on Jun 17, 2008 12:51:08 GMT -5
Well, for talking about hte Kissing Tree part, I think it was a lot of dramatisation for bring some hate toward Preston I think you’re absolutely right about that. Also, there’s the part where Matthew tries to stop Preston from cutting down the tree and gets injured. I’ve red somewhere on the net where people even hate him for this event, saying it was Preston’s fault that poor Matthew got hurt. Let’s see….no, it was not Preston’s fault, but Matthew’s own. He was the one not thinking strait and charged into a man holding an axe. That was not well thought of from his side, and of course an accident would happen by doing this. People seem to forget that Preston was injured as well, only not as seriously and that he was sad that things turned out the way they did, being worried about Matthew’s condition. Sully was created for be the perfect image of deep dream of maybe lot of woman, but how annying it become in a sens. True, true... It can become too much at times with his perfection. Sully saves the day…"again"…like that was new. and often soem girls woudl said - and brig some default like when Prestonasked to Grace, which worked for the hotel kitchen) to enter by the back. I'm sorry, but still today, that is the regular way for the workers to do in such place. But we must remember it was all Jake and Hank’s doing. He had nothing against black people until his rivals came and made him see that he would loose business if he continued his way-abouts with black people. And yes, it was and still is today, very normal for staff to enter the back end of a building when working in such a position as Grace did. Preston was very open-mind. Opposite to the townies, he never reject the fact thta Mike, Dorothy and even Myra work in some important position in a way. How bad he is, lol! Yes, I am so thrilled that Preston wanted to have Dr. Mike as his hotel-clinic doctor. I love how Mike was positive of the proposal and interested in the ideas that Preston had. I would have loved seeing Mike work for Preston, but of course that would mean no Andrew, but the idea would be interesting. LOL, and what’s that Sully said, when seeing Mike’s open-minded reaction, he simple says "You ain´t going into business with him". Well excuse me Mr. Sully, but I think it’s up to your wife to make her own decisions and who’s now being a person-hater? Everyone would think it’s only Preston who holds hatred towards Sully, but really, they both hate each other in a way. Even from the very first episode, you could see Sully’s expression towards a happy Preston that had just arrived in town. Did Preston seem really happy and sure about remove Horace buggy because of the late payment? Probably if his father wouldn't come, he would extended the payements (with some more interest of course) Agree! He only did it because his father was standing right beside him. Of all his achievements in town, his father was not pleased, so Preston had to do some form of act to get his father’s approval, which also seemed to work. I was just a little surprise at the end when his father talk about to rebuild, stronger this time. It seem to be a kind of friendly speech, opposite of eevrything about how near a shame Preston achievement was in town. Well of cause, Preston was his son after all. He didn’t want his son to loose face in the town he lived, and therefore encourage him to keep making progress and so on. I love his speech btw: "Misfortune only made me stronger. I learned from it, then moved on. Ever forward. That's the Lodge way". This statement is something I would try to remember in my own life, it’s something everyone should remember and not lose faith when times are looking bad. Again another point illogical point in the first episode, when he loan to Ingrid/Matthew. If he can't loan to the Reverend later, how could he loan to Mathew, knowing that the boy not have regular work (and it was lot of money that Ingrid hold), bank need more for give a loan. It seem more made for bring anger toward Preston - but seem not too much logical. Either it was because he had just started his business in town and was desperate in his act, or it was a mistake from the writers of the show. And it seemed as if it was Ingrid that Preston gave the loan to. Matthew knew nothing of this loan and Preston would need Matthew’s signature to insure this loan if it indeed was meant to be signed in his name. |
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Post by HelChamp on Jun 29, 2008 15:11:07 GMT -5
Maybe for the topic (for be able to add the discussion in the topic): "Please, call me Preston." – A Preston discussion And for follow the discussion of Jake, about him and Preston at the same table, that remember me this in the baseball episode (4th episode of the season 4, and I think the first time Preston and Cloud Dancing are meet each other. The scene is when the capitaine wait about Sully shoot him the ball (just before the capitaine hurt Matthew during his run), we see at the left of the screen, in the background, Cloud Dancing and Preston side ot each other.  Well, the video show it more, but we really see Cloud Dancing talking friendly with Preston behind the people (the move of his head toward Preston, how Preston is a little over his shoulder for listen, etc...). It seem more logical, especially when we see how Preston is toward Cloud Dancing later in season, that are the actors talking together than the character - remember that Preston's actor was Custer in previous season and the DQ cast told have plenty of good time with. |
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Post by Preston-Lover on Jun 29, 2008 16:33:04 GMT -5
Maybe for the topic (for be able to add the discussion in the topic): "Please, call me Preston." – A Preston discussion I actually don’t think he says that accurate like that (or else please tell me in which eppy) but I do remember him saying to Dr. Mike "Oh please, it’s Preston". But yeah sure, I’d like to add it (I thought about it too) but I really think something not involving a characters name would be better. Ok, so for Jake’s discussion it’s "Call me Dr. Slicker" but that’s not really his name, so that’s different. And yes, I would also like to add "A Preston discussion". I’ll try to think harder to a well known and good quote for it to be included. It seem more logical, especially when we see how Preston is toward Cloud Dancing later in season Lol, how exactly? We don’t really see them together afterwards (a sham) only that they are mentioned in discussions ....like Sully talks about Preston to Cloud Dancing and Sully/Mike/Dorothy talk about Cloud Dancing to Preston. In regards to Preston and Cloud Dancing talking together, I also think that it’s the actors talking together. I mean it’s seen more than once with other actors as well. They know that they are not in focus and being filmed and therefore do as they please (well, talk at least). But it’s funny to notice. Here’s a pic of them together (I love this pic, it seems so rare):  |
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Post by Aletta on Jul 7, 2008 12:47:33 GMT -5
I've been thinking about why Preston is so mean to Sully. Especially in the episode 'Dead of Alive'. My conclusion is that he is jealous. He's trying so hard to prove that he is strong in that episode, and Sully is strong. Sully is also 'free', and he is married to Dr. Quinn... Preston must envy him . |
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Post by Preston-Lover on Jul 8, 2008 6:40:24 GMT -5
I've been thinking about why Preston is so mean to Sully. Especially in the episode 'Dead of Alive'. My conclusion is that he is jealous. He's trying so hard to prove that he is strong in that episode, and Sully is strong. Sully is also 'free', and he is married to Dr. Quinn... Preston must envy him . Could be lol and also as Preston said, because Sully got in his way all the time. Well, we haven’t seen it that much (the show can’t show everything) but from the first episode Preston arrived in town, Sully refused to build his home and then of course there’s Sully leading the group against Preston being able to establish his casino in town. **** ((Conversation brought from the thread "Greetings to new writers":First I didn't really like Preston that much, because he was a little annoying He has never been annoying for me, more like a funny character, but one I just never really paid attention to before a little over a year ago - and now I can’t get enough of him lol. I go crazy if I discover something new about him haha. Guess I’m too obsessed – That I’ve never been with Andrew, so Preston really opened my heart and to explore deeper the world of Dr. Quinn and to be so involved with it. But the last couple of months I realized he is very cute Yeah, it’s odd you suddenly discover that and wonder why you didn’t earlier. I remember when I just had become a fan of him, that I asked myself…Why? Why such a character. He was totally different from those characters/actors that I normally like, but now I find myself more obsessed with him than with any other. and that he is not really a bad person. Agree, he certainly is not, just misunderstood in many situations, both by the townies in the show and by the viewers. He can't help that he had a weird upbringing. Lol, I don’t know how weird it was, but yes, it has infected him in his life by being well educated from Boston, being involved in the business world where only the strong survive. I can understand it must have been hard for him being the youngest of five brothers. One in my family has it likewise, being the youngest of seven siblings and they bring difficulties and discord in life and still do. I’m glad I only have a younger brother lol |
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Post by Aletta on Jul 9, 2008 14:19:46 GMT -5
I mean that he has a very demanding father. In 'The Tempest', his father never says he is proud of Preston, even though Preston worked so hard. And in 'Dead or Alive', Preston implied that his brothers (and perhaps even his father) thought that he was weak. So now, poor Preston tries hard to prove that he is strong, and he wants to make his father proud. What Preston needs, is a loving woman who loves him unconditionally, and who is proud of him, no matter how much money he makes.  I saw DQMW's final episode today (for the first time) and I hated it! Every character has a happy ending (Colleen is married, Grace is pregnant, Jake and Theresa have plans to build a house), except for Preston! |
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Post by Preston-Lover on Jul 9, 2008 18:16:11 GMT -5
I mean that he has a very demanding father. In 'The Tempest', his father never says he is proud of Preston, even though Preston worked so hard. And in 'Dead or Alive', Preston implied that his brothers (and perhaps even his father) thought that he was weak. Yeah I know (sham on them) ....He’s from this family where all go the business way in life (well, one would think) and Preston has to live up to it all. I saw DQMW's final episode today (for the first time) and I hated it! Every character has a happy ending (Colleen is married, Grace is pregnant, Jake and Theresa have plans to build a house), except for Preston! That final eppy makes me cry every time I watch it!!! (Yes I get tears in my eyes) It’s not at all funny to watch and I can’t believe that no townies care about what’s happening to Preston, only about themselves and their money in the bank that they’ve lost along with Preston. Well, actually the only townie to care a little, is Matthew – he kinda shows sympathy and also defends Preston when everyone tries to attack. I’m glad a last scene that was meant to be included in the final episode, never made it, because else it would have been even sadder. It was a scene of Preston looking up at his hotel (sad of course awww) and looking at a large sign that says something like "Under new ownership" and then he climes up on his horse and rides off  |
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Post by Aletta on Jul 10, 2008 3:28:35 GMT -5
Yes, I think that's so mean! And they all blame Preston for what happened, because he lost their money. But that's not his fault. It's what banks do: they invest with the money, but the people in town are to stupid to understand!
That's horrible :S. I wish they had made a seventh season, with Preston and a mail-order bride (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Leland_Adams).
By the way, are there any extra's on the DVD's about Preston (or Jason Adams)?
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Post by Preston-Lover on Jul 10, 2008 10:11:37 GMT -5
I wish they had made a seventh season, with Preston and a mail-order bride (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Leland_Adams). I see you’ve found my Wikipedia article. I’m so glad someone reads it! It took me about a week to gather all information, putting it up proper and an additional two weeks to obtain permission to use the pictures (one of them from the director of Weeping Shriner) There’s s still something I need to add to the article and I need to get confirmed about his name too. I’m sick and tired of having to call him J. Leland Adams, when everything points in the direction of his name being and always has been Jason, but that misleading well known movie website IMDB, had to go and bring doubts to everything by saying his name is James. Ok, the mail-order bride thing: Well, I wouldn’t have wanted seeing Preston with a mail-order bride. When I first red about that this was planned to happen, I was so, so sad, because this mail-order bride was going to be a cruel snob, who would boss Preston around and he could do nothing about it, if he wanted to stay married to her because of her money which he had to have to remain in his business position. I can’t believe his father would do that to Preston!!! He wouldn’t help financial in The Tempest when Preston needed money to rebuild, and when Preston goes bankrupt, all he would do, is send him a woman with money and not help him out like a real father should do having the financial possibility. Poor, poor Preston!!! I’m so glad we never saw this played out, so I guess there was one thing good about a seventh season not being made. By the way, are there any extra's on the DVD's about Preston (or Jason Adams)? Afraid not, I was so hoping though, but became disappointed when there was nothing… The only thing is the audio commentaries where Joe Lando talks about him and also Chad Allen and Shawn Toovey. (Sully, Matthew and Brian) But well, there does exist pictures from behind the scenes on the net, (not many though) which is kinda the only extra material I got. Here’s a behind-the-scenes pic I found recently: *Link* |
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Post by Aletta on Jul 10, 2008 10:45:27 GMT -5
Lol, I didn't know that you wrote it. By the way, I was very relieved when I read that Preston's Jason Adams is not the same person as the guy that played in Ryan's Hope. On this website (http://www.thedqtimes.com/pages/castpages/castpages_jason.htm) there is a link to an interview with that other guy, and I didn't like him at all (I sent an e-mail to the website to correct the error), so I'm glad it isn't Preston . Do you know anything more about our guy? I tried to find some information about his personal life, interviews and what he did after DQMW, but there is almost no information about him (I only know he played in one Star Trek-episode) O, I didn't know that. I want him to have a sweet wife, who teaches him that there is more in life than just money (I guess I'm a romantic  . But perhaps this mail-order bride was going to change in the end? What do they say about him? I'm glad you know so much about Preston, I've learned a lot since I visited this forum for the first time :-). |
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Post by Preston-Lover on Jul 10, 2008 13:39:46 GMT -5
By the way, I was very relieved when I read that Preston's Jason Adams is not the same person as the guy that played in Ryan's Hope. On this website (http://www.thedqtimes.com/pages/castpages/castpages_jason.htm) there is a link to an interview with that other guy, and I didn't like him at all (I sent an e-mail to the website to correct the error), so I'm glad it isn't Preston. Yeah, I didn’t like that guy too much either. Well, let’s hope "The Dr. Quinn Times" will remove the article and the claim of his participation in Ryan’s Hope. If not, then I’ll contact them later this year with the same matter, giving them some more proof. Do you know anything more about our guy? I tried to find some information about his personal life, interviews and what he did after DQMW, but there is almost no information about him All information I know and of importance, have been included in the article. I’ll include more info about his theater world later in the article. But Hel might know more, since she has found a article that dates back to the 80s (I just hope it’s not about his false involvement with Ryan’s Hope). If you want a drawing that his daughter Isabelle drew, then come on MSN  (I only know he played in one Star Trek-episode) And of course Weeping Shriner I’ll soon pay for being able to watch the entire movie on the net. I can’t wait! ;D But perhaps this mail-order bride was going to change in the end? I doubt it. The reason for bringing her into the show, was to make Preston’s life miserable for that last season which was planned and written by the script makers. What do they say about him? Well, as mentioned in my article on Wikipedia, Joe said that he and his family are friends with the Adams’s. In the commentary with Chad Allen and Shawn Toovey, Chad mentions that Adams was at the same time as being involved with the filming of Dr. Quinn, also very committed to his theater and gave Chad advice in the matter of Chad’s own theater thing. Chad also goofed about when Preston said to Sully " A real sheriff Sully, one who’s capable of doing the job" Chad repeats Preston’s words and says: " Yeah see, I still feel a little like I just wanna stand up and say....Hey body! What are you talking about! Ok, so it still comes up in my gut – like you’re talking about me! I’m capable!!" Both Chad and Shawn laugh, lol mostly Shawn. Also, Shawn Toovey said that he liked how Adams talked. Shawn: I loved his voice.. Chad: Done by Joe...or? Shawn: No, Jason. Chad: Yeah... I'm glad you know so much about Preston Haha, I don’t go by the name Preston-Lover for nothing I've learned a lot since I visited this forum for the first time. I’m glad and hopefully there’ll be more new stuff revealed, we just have to get those discussions going. |
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Post by Aletta on Jul 12, 2008 14:05:24 GMT -5
I just saw a part of The Tempest. When Prestons father gets in the train, Preston wants to say something. He says: "Father, I...", but than he changes his mind, and only says that he hopes his father has a nice trip. What do you guys think that Preston really wanted to tell his father? By the way, I love the part hat he arrives at the Chateau and that all the people from town are helping in. One of the few times they do something nice for him. When he sees dr. Mike, he says: "Michaela?" on such a sweet way, I think it's one of the few sincere things he says in the entire show, lol. That's cool, I love his voice too  . I think that's mean. They really treat him like a bad guy, but he isn't all that bad. |
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Post by Preston-Lover on Jul 19, 2008 5:01:29 GMT -5
I just saw a part of The Tempest. When Prestons father gets in the train, Preston wants to say something. He says: "Father, I...", but than he changes his mind, and only says that he hopes his father has a nice trip. What do you guys think that Preston really wanted to tell his father? That he needed help financial to rebuild his hotel ......Ok, he likely just wants to connect with his father. When he sees dr. Mike, he says: "Michaela?" on such a sweet way I also love that way he says her name – it was really sweet and emotional. I hold my breath every time he says it. |
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